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        	<title>Scarlette on Are we born with talents such as music or sport, or can we develop them?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much Writefix and Yokama for your honest opinions and tips. It helps a lot! :) I am really having a hard time doing essays. I'll try to do and post more essays. I really need your help. Thanks again..:)</p>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scarlette and welcome to Writefix!</p>
<p>Thanks for your essay. Using <a title="readability statistics" href="http://www.read-able.com/" target="_blank">some of the tools</a> at the top of the page (under "Useful Links") we can find the the essay is 227 words long. As Yokama points out this would be too short for IELTS - you would lose a lot of marks here. Write a minimum of 250 in Part 2 if you are doing the exam. </p>
<p>The statistics also show that the average number of words per sentence is very high, at 20.64. You should try to reduce this to between 12-15 words per sentence. You could eliminate unnecessary words, break up long sentences, make sure you have only one idea per sentence, or add some very short sentences to reduce the average. Let's try!</p>
<p>Here's a sentence with 36 words and some very good ideas:</p>
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The outcome of a learned ability cannot be compared with inherent skill, since there is more to a skill <span style="background-color: #ffff00">that</span> cannot be imparted, no matter how good the teacher is and how serious the training is. (36 words, one sentence, average 36 words per sentence)</p>
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<p>Here is one possible rewrite:</p>
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We cannot compare learned skills with natural ability. There is more to an ability than can be learned, no matter how good the teacher or the training. (27 words, two sentences, average 13.5)</p>
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<p><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Organization and Ideas</strong></span></p>
<p>I agree with Yokama that the second paragraph does not contribute much to the question. The ideas are good, but they are a little off-topic. The paragraph describes some advantages of being able to sing or or having other natural talents. </p>
<p>You have a very nice topic sentence for paragraph two:  </p>
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People with innate talents such as for music and sports are very fortunate.</p>
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<p>This is true, and a very nice sentence, but can these talents be learned? Try to keep the focus on the question. Check the descriptors under '<a title="Descriptors" href="http://www.ielts.org/pdf/UOBDs_WritingT2.pdf" target="_blank">Task Response</a>.'</p>
<p>Here's another long sentence</p>
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For instance, a child with a beautiful voice when asked to perform in a small family gathering and is being applauded, it will make the child feel proud and would certainly boost his or her self-esteem. <span style="background-color: #ffff00">(36 words)</span></p>
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<p>This could be shortened to:</p>
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Performing can make children feel proud and boost their self-esteem.</p>
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<p>But it’s still <span style="color: #800000"><strong>off-topic</strong></span>. Let’s bend it slightly:</p>
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Learning skills in music or sport can improve children’s self-esteem. Schools can definitely give children basic skills in art, sports or playing instruments, and children can feel proud of their accomplishments. But…</p>
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<p>Now it’s a little more on-topic, but still using your ideas.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Layout</strong></span></p>
<p>A very simple layout or organizational pattern might be to have an intro, a paragraph saying "Yes, skills can be learned," a paragraph saying "No, learned skills cannot compare with natural ability" and a conclusion.</p>
<p>Don't forget to add a thesis sentence at the end of the conclusion to tell the reader what you are going to do in the essay. It could be something like this:</p>
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In this essay, I will show why I believe that while skills can be developed, natural ability is essential.</p>
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<p>A sentence like this would indicate that there are two parts in your essay, e.g., schools can teach music/sports etc, BUT first talent is required.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000"><strong>Cohesive Devices: Transitions or Markers </strong></span></p>
<p>The <a title="Descriptors" href="http://www.ielts.org/pdf/UOBDs_WritingT2.pdf" target="_blank">Writing Task 2 descriptors for IELTS</a> look for <span style="color: #800000"><strong>cohesive devices</strong></span> -  words that link sentences and ideas. In the third paragraph, Yokama is absolutely right to add the word 'however.'  </p>
<p>You wrote:</p>
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Parents enroll their child in an educational institution because they have faith and confidence that their child can be taught and learned to acquire these skills with proper teaching and practice.  The outcome of a learned ability cannot be compared with inherent skill, since there is more to a skill that cannot be imparted, no matter how good the teacher is and how serious the training is. </p>
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<p>Adding the word 'however' shows the contrast between the two ideas in this paragraph, and tells the reader that you have changed your direction. Here's a suggested rewrite with some other small edits.</p>
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Parents enroll their children in schools because they have confidence that their child can learn to acquire music or sports with proper teaching and practice. <strong><span style="color: #800000">However</span></strong>, we cannot compare <span style="color: #800000"><strong>these</strong></span> learned skills with natural ability. There is more to an ability than can be learned, no matter how good the teacher or the training. </p>
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<p>You have some very good sentences and vocabulary (I like your word 'imparted'!), and I hope you will post some more essays and help some other writers here! Watch out for the word count, and focus relentlessly on the topic!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 05:17:32 +0400</pubDate>
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        	<title>yokama on Are we born with talents such as music or sport, or can we develop them?</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Overall, I have to say that you only have 202 words. But your sencond paragraph seems to me that only has a liitle relevance to the topic ( the last two sentences ). So it means you just wrote about 170 words, which could be penalised greatly in IELTS exam. In addition, your conclusion is too sudden. It is because that you didn't have enough arguments to support it.</p>
<p>My suggestion is that you should organise better. To have more details and examples, which could easily add words to your essays. Meanwhile, don't forget to think about whether your examples are responding to the questions being asked.</p>
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<p>Tips: You should post your essays in the section of 'Your Argument and Opinion Essays' !</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 13:48:18 +0400</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Parents <span style="color: #ff0000">enroll</span> their <span style="color: #ff0000">child</span> in an educational institution because they have faith and confidence that their <span style="color: #ff0000">child</span> can be <span style="color: #ff0000">taught and learned</span> to acquire these skills with proper teaching and practice. The outcome of a learned ability cannot be compared with inherent skill, since there is more to a skill that cannot be imparted, no matter how good the teacher is and how serious the training is.<strong><span style="color: #ff0000">(the sentences are too long. mix the long ones with short ones)</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000000">rewrite: Parents sent their children to education institutions. That is because they have the faith that children can acquire these skills with proper teaching and regular practice. However, the outcome of learned ability cannot be compared with innate talents. No matter how good the teacher is or how intensive the trainning is, there are always some particular skills which could not be imparted.</span></strong></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 13:34:05 +0400</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">1. Don’t use commas to join what should be separate sentences</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>2. </strong><strong>Word Choice/Word Form/Usage</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #993366"><strong></strong><strong>3. diminish negative</strong></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Yours:</span></strong> For instance, a child with a <span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>beautiful</strong> </span>voice <strong><span style="color: #993366">when asked to perform in a small family gathering and is being applauded</span><span style="color: #ff0000">,</span></strong> it will make the child feel proud and would certainly boost his or her self-esteem.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000000">rewrite: For instance, children with a great voice would have the chance of performing in a family gathering. Being inundated with applause and praise, they enhance their self-esteem.</span></strong></p>
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<p><span style="color: #000000"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">4. shorten and simplify</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Yours:</span></strong> <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">Another thing,</span></strong> those who are blessed with certain <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">skills</span></strong> do not need intensive <strong><span style="color: #0000ff">workshop</span></strong> for they are naturally good at it. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000"><strong>rewrite:</strong> <span style="color: #0000ff">Anoter thing is/in addition/besides</span></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #000000">Another thing is that those with certain talents do not need intensive learning for they are already good at it. </span></strong></p>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #000000">Those above are about your errors. But actually I don't see your second paragraph has any relevance to the topic. You said talented people are lucky. But the topic is not asking you if non-talented people are unfortunate. It is asking you if they could learn to be excellent through nurture.</span></strong></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 13:22:11 +0400</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000"> <strong>Punctuation </strong>( </span>no comma is needed here unless you add an <span style="color: #ff0000">adverbial modifier <span style="color: #000000">between these two<span style="color: #ff0000">)</span></span></span></strong></p>
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<p>Yours: Having a natural talent as opposed to a learned talent<span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>, </strong></span>has been a topic of discussion since the dawn of time. </p>
<p><span style="color: #0000ff">(sorry, I don't understand this sentence. Do you mean: Whether a natual talent can be taught  is a topic that has been frequent discussed?)</span></p>
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<p><strong><span style="color: #0000ff"><span style="color: #000000"><span style="color: #ff0000">rewrite the intro: </span>   Natural talents  are contrary to acquired skills.  Whether children can gain these talents through cultivation has been debated in a long time. Some people think not. Others, however, are convinced that any child could beome elitist in certain areas.</span></span></strong><strong></strong></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 12:52:42 +0400</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #ff0000">It is generally believed that some people are born with certain talents, for instance for sport or music, and others are not. However, it is sometimes claimed that any child can be taught to become a good sports person or musician.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000">Discuss both views and give your opinion.</span></p>
<p>Help I need some opinion.. It's my first time...</p>
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<p>Having a natural talent as opposed to a learned talent, has been a topic of discussion since the dawn of time. Some believes that certain individuals were born with untaught skills. However, others are still convinced that these talents can be taught and learned.</p>
<p>People with innate talents such as for music and sports are very fortunate. One advantage is that it helps the child to build self-confidence. For instance, a child with a beautiful voice when asked to perform in a small family gathering and is being applauded, it will make the child feel proud and would certainly boost his or her self-esteem. Another thing, those who are blessed with certain skills do not need intensive workshop for they are naturally good at it. Regular practice and training is recommended to enhance their skills.</p>
<p>Parents enroll their child in an educational institution because they have faith and confidence that their child can be taught and learned to acquire these skills with proper teaching and practice.  The outcome of a learned ability cannot be compared with inherent skill, since there is more to a skill that cannot be imparted, no matter how good the teacher is and how serious the training is.</p>
<p>I personally think that any child can be taught of any skills, but to be able to shine some natural talent is desired. </p>
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